Interviews

May 142012

Maybe you know Matt Patton from his days manning the low end for The Dexateens, maybe you’re familiar with his work as the frontman for his own band Model Citizen.  Maybe you’ve heard there’s a new guy playing bass these days with The Drive-By Truckers.  Matt Patton does lots of stuff and we here at Nine Bullets are thankful that he took a few minutes to answer a few questions.

9B: It seems like a stupid and obvious first question but how does it feel to be playing bass with the Drive-By Truckers?  I saw John Frusciante talking about jumping up the wall when he got the call from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.  Did you do anything to celebrate?  Has anything surprised you about them now that you’re playing with them?

MP: It’s a great feeling to be playing with Drive-By Truckers. They were patron saints to the Dexateens when we were making a go of it. They believed in us from the time we met. I have often said that if faith, tears and goodwill could’ve made us more successful the DBT folks and the folks who run the 40 Watt in Athens would’ve willed it to happen for us.

I have to make a conscious effort to separate my fandom from the business side of things. There wasn’t much time for celebration when the dialogue started. We spoke briefly about the possibility one day just after the new year. A couple weeks later they offered me a month of dates and I had to commit to learning a hell of a lot of songs. I have been through this before in a few different settings. I have had the chance to play with a few heroes. There is excitement, but you pray you don’t ruin it. In the end it’s all about the moment you get to walk out on the stage with those folks. If you’re prepared it’s going to be so very rewarding and fun. When I feel prepared and relaxed I catch myself being able to focus on those guys and in that moment I become a fan again.

9B:  I was at your first show in Denver.  Patterson mentioned you were using your vacation days to go out on the road with them.  What’s your day job and is anyone there familiar with the Truckers?

MP: I took a job last year working for the State of Mississippi as an Environmental Scientist. I work in their water division. I am one of the folks trying to ensure that state waters stay clean. I have been working in that field in the private and government sectors for five or six years now. It feels good to come off the road and still have a job. I remember my food and bev days. It was a crapshoot as to whether or not you would be on the schedule when you got back to town!

My co-worker Alicia and I were riding around the levies taking samples one day when I first started and I noticed she was listening to the Truckers on her iPod. She told me that our supervisor Michael was a big fan. The next day I noticed the inconspicuous DBT sticker behind the toolbox on his truck. Needless to say everyone at home and at work has been very supportive of this opportunity. All Michael wants is a signed poster. All my wife wants is me to come home safe….and, my check.

9B:  I read an article about the benefit show that your old band, the Dexateens, played with the Alabama Shakes and Lee Bains and the Glory Fire.  The article said the Dexateens were working on new music and were changing names and maybe getting on the road.  Can you fill us in with Dexateens’ news?

MP: Since we took a break a couple summers back we’ve recorded nearly 40 songs. They’re all in varying stages of being complete. It’s not a project about which we’ve been terribly aggressive. We just focus and get a ton done whenever we do get together. I don’t know what the ultimate plan is. Everyone in the band has moved on to some degree. We all stay extremely busy with work and family; not to mention our own musical endeavors.

I’ve already talked with Elliott about how I think the new material should be released. I’m the one who gets all excited. I start to sweat those details way before it’s time and sometimes I miss the actual plan when it goes down. Elliott has proposed that in the future we use the name the ex teens. That’s very clever and very cheesy at the same time. So obviously I love it. I know there will be new music as well as some shows when the time is right. I would look for it all to be still a ways down the road. There’s no rush anymore.  

9B: Word on the street is that you’re a serious vinyl collector.  Tell us about your collection, numbers, particular genres, etc etc.  I’m not asking about favorites because that’s stupid.

MP: Like most collections it tells my musical story. I started collecting around age 10. My dad started taking us to record shows in Birmingham a couple of times a year. He’d give us a few dollars and let my sister and I  pick out some records. In a few years he wasn’t as involved in collecting and I had become consumed with it. Early finds included Elvis, Stax and Motown because that reflected my mother’s taste. My mother is not a collector. She expresses her appreciation for music outwardly. She taught me to dance. And, when that music plays he seems to be at her happiest. 

My collection really exploded in my teens and early twenties. I had odd jobs and I once worked at the Sound Shop in the mall. I was free to spend a good bit of my earnings on records. This period saw me go from the flowery pop of the 60′s to the hard rock of the 70′s and eventually on to punk and new wave. I added the bulk of my collection at this time. When I got to college in Tuscaloosa we had a wonderful store called Vinyl Solution. I probably stopped in at least twice a day every day for years. I even worked there on weekends for store credit sometimes. Vinyl hauls at this time were all over the map from Zeppelin to The Clash to Gary Numan. I was consuming it all. 

After college I was just another broke musician. I got so tired of looking at my collection. I would have parties sometimes just so someone would pick out the records to play. It’s like I couldn’t bring myself to do it. It’s worth mentioning that Vinyl Solution had shut down by this time. The owner sold me a couple of retail cabinets from the store in which my records sat and collected dust for a few years.

Meeting my wife turned things around for me. I learned how to handle money. I’m happier and I find there is a little money to be spent at the record store. My collection is growing again. The End of All Music in Oxford, MS has a good selection of gospel that I’ve been getting into. I’ll look at everything in the store, but the room where they keep the old soul and gospel usually gets me rifling through my wallet these days. I haven’t counted in years, but I would guess there are more than 2000 records in my music room these days. 

9B:  A little while ago you moved from Alabama to a little town in Mississippi called Water Valley.  I’m a bit familar with Water Valley, it’s a nice town with it’s fair share of odd ball characters and underbelly.  If people want to read about the positive things going on in Water Valley they can read this article from the New York Times but tell us a story about the seedy and socially awkward side of Water Valley.

MP: Very funny! I have used the word miraculous to describe my ending up in Water Valley on several occasions. I noticed I had been saying it one day and I started doing a lot of thinking about it. It’s hard to know where to start, but I have to give my wife credit for moving here five years ago and refusing to move to Alabama where I was. She’s an Oxford girl. She has built a reputation as an artist around these parts and is a part owner of a gallery.

A couple of years ago I was living and working in my hometown of Jasper, Alabama. All of a sudden the Dexateens called it quits and I didn’t have a whole lot to look forward to. Those were some trying times for me. In time I learned that Lynn Bridges had moved to Water Valley to work at a studio there called Dial Back Sound. Lynn recorded several Dexateens records as well as a number of other records I have worked on. In addition to that reconnection I was able to cross paths with Bruce Watson once again. Bruce owns the studio. He has a hands on approach. He hired me for some session work. It was the first I had been offered since the economy went south. It was all such a pick me up!

But, Water Valley is full of self-made folks like Bruce, Lynn and my wife. Independent business is thriving here. We have a grocery that focuses on foods produced locally. We have an actual dress maker in a store front on the main street. We have a space lawyer as well as a mother and wife who produces and markets her own grits. When I look at it all it seems like people here are living on a lot of faith and most folks have told them over and over again that they’re crazy. Yet, they are making it work slowly but surely. These folks are my kind. It’s inspiring and I believe, miraculous. 

9B:  Are you interested in joining the Truckers full time?  Is that on the table, up to you or up to them?  From the Denver show it looked like the band was enjoying having you there and it sounded great.

MP: As Patterson has said in his memos recently it’s a non issue right now. It’s not on the table. The main thing they want to focus on is getting some rest and catching up with family. I know they want to make a really great record this next time and that requires recharging your batteries. I believe they have earned the right after releasing several albums and embarking on tour after tour the last few years. 

They are trying to time all of these things just right. They are trying to have a great time on the last longer run they’re likely to do this year. Nothing would ruin all that right now like trying to fit a new member into the picture. All I know is that I’m having the time of my life and they have expressed to me how grateful they are and that’s enough. 

Big thanks Matt.

Feb 222012

Elway – Whispers In A Shot Glass
Elway – Song For Eric Solomon To Sing
Elway – Kristina’s Last Song
Elway – It’s Alive!

The only folks in our god-blessed country not talking about Tim Tebow are a band from Fort Collins Colorado called Elway. They are more excited about vegetarian food and vodka than football. Though their name is snide, their music is irresistibly sincere. Elway released their first album, Delusions, earlier this year. It rocks, like stuff from Fort Collins tends to do. Singer/guitarist Tim Browne was cool enough to answer my clumsy email and talk to me about it. So, without further ado, learn yourself some things:

9B: Who plays What in the band? What possessed you all to make music, as opposed to opening a food cart or fighting crime or something?

Elway: My name is Tim and I play guitar and sing. Brian Van Proyen plays guitar and sings. Joe Henderer plays bass and sings. Garrett Carr plays drums. I can’t say for sure what spurred the other guys into playing music, but I can tell you that it was a general sense of discontent with almost everything else that my peers were into that got me started. I first started playing guitar at about 10 or 11 because it seemed like a better way to spend my time than playing sports or chasing girls. I later found out that playing guitar was actually a great way to meet girls, so in a roundabout way, I suppose I wasn’t really any different from my peers, except for the fact that no shits were given about sports, which is an attitude I still celebrate today. What keeps me from receding into the realm of the shitty, passionless non-muician is the people I am able to meet and the places I am able to see through playing this music.

9B: Elway is a great band to sing along to. Do you think about a song’s catchiness while you’re writing it? Would you even want to sing it yourself if it wasn’t catchy and fun to sing?

Elway: I don’t know that I specifically think about the catchiness of a tune when I am writing it. To be honest, the catchiness seems to be coincidential when it does arise. Above all, I try to be honest in the songs that I write, because if I’m not saying what I really mean, it seems truly pointless to play self-written music. I’ve written my share of songs that are not very catchy of particularly fun to sing, but they still mean something to me because they came from a place of honest intention.

9B: What are your favorite songs about Colorado?

Elway: “Me and Denver” by Dan Andriano in the Emergency Room is a fantastic little ditty, and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t at least a little nostalgic for a good portion of John Denver’s catalogue. We ripped off a song called “Colorado” by a weird folk project from the 60s called Up With People. We didn’t do so because of any sort of reverence for the song though. Up With People put out records with the intention of ‘correcting’ the moral compass of the left-leaning 1960s folk movement. They were interested in re-instilling conservative christian values in the youth of America. We lifted part of the song and put it at the beginning of a song about drinking heavily.

9B: One of my favorite Simpsons moments is when Moe goes to LA to be a judge on American Idol, asks his limo driver to play a song about LA and the driver says “Ah, they all suck!” and plays “Sweet Home Alabama.” Consequently, what is your favorite song about Florida? Can you think of a song about LA that doesn’t suck?

Elway: The best song about Florida is either Tiltwheel’s “Fuck You, This Place is Dead Anyway” or Against Me!’s “Miami“. As far as LA songs, The Distillers’ “City of Angels,” Bad Religion’s “Land of Competition” or Big D and the Kids Table’s “LAX” are all pretty stellar.

9B: In a hypothetical situation with no legal repercussions, you met two people, and one says “I listen to everything but country and rap” and the other tells you he’s bewildered and offended by “this trend of punks going acoustic in the past five years.” What would you do or say to them?

Elway: I would tell the former to loosen up and realize that there is a wealth of great music out there of any and all genres, and to judge all hip hop and rap music on whatever is heard on clear channel radio stations and country by Toby Keith songs is ill advised and embarassing. To the latter I would say nothing and only provide him with a copy of Sundowner’s Four One Five Two. I do believe, however, that there are a lot of examples of punk singers playing acoustic songs that come off as hokey, uninspired bullshit, but you just can’t deny the greatness of Chris Wollard, Dave Hause, Dan Andriano, Joey Cape, or Chris McCaughan.

9B: You live in Fort Collins, play at Surfside Seven…what do Jon Snodgrass and his bands mean to Elway?

Elway: When I moved to Fort Collins to go to school at Colorado State University, one of the things that most excited me about my new hometown was that it was the place that ALL and Armchair Martian were from. Hang on Ted was a staple of my highschool punk lexicon, and it is still one of my favorite records ever. Drag the River’s You Can’t Live This Way and It’s Crazy are two of my favorite country records ever. I really admire Jon as a writer and musician. He’s a great dude and a good buddy. We’re extremely lucky that Kim (his wife, who owns Surfside 7) lets us get trashed and play in her bar.

9B: After Husker Du and the Replacements went down, I feel like a lot of attention on midwestern music was lost to the coasts–places like New Jersey and Berkley became critical in the 90′s. But bands such as Armchair Martian, the Lillingtons, and Dillinger Four stuck around in the midwest to carry that tradition. ALL actually moved in from the coast. Do you have an affinity for any midwestern bands that went under the radar the 80′s/90′s while the focus was elsewhere?

Elway: This is an incredibly broad question, but the answer is yes I do have an affinity for several bands from flyover country. The Broadways, Alkaline Trio, Cap’n Jazz, Cursive, The Promise Ring, Braid and so many others basically built the foundation for the type of music we play. Of course, the influence of bands from both coasts is equally present, but the midwest was largely overlooked for some unforgivable reason.

9B: What do you think of the midwestern scene now, with Cheap Girls, Failures’ Union, Lemuria, Tin Armor, Banner Pilot, Teenage Bottlerocket, and a host of others putting out lots of awesome music?

Elway: I think at this point, given the nature of the music industry (that is that the bulk of music is distributed independently via the internet), you can find an equal bounty of good bands from just about anywhere. Because the dissemination of information about independent music is through the internet rather than the very narrow pathways of the poorly-xeroxed zine of old, it is now a matter of course that kids in Laramie, Wyoming will eventually form bands just like kids in Philadelphia will. I think the chauvenisms apparent today toward the coasts is just a simple matter of population. More people, more bands. I don’t think about independent music today as a fragmented, divisible landscape. It’s more of a contour map.

9B: For those who may not know, who is Eric Solomon? And why did you title a song for him?

Elway: Eric Solomon was the dude behind the late, great O Pioneers!!! Aside from not ever having read Willa Cather, he is a good guy who makes good music and prints our t-shirts. We named the song after him because it is about our experience in the underground music scene, into which Eric’s old band was our first glimpse.

9B: What’s your drink? Do you have a favorite brewery in Colorado?

Elway: I am a vodka and ginger-ale with a lime kinda guy. I know that since this is an alt-country blog I should tell you that I drink two bottles of sour mash whiskey a day, but that’s not really my speed. I do enjoy a glass of good Scotch here and there, though. As far as breweries go, Fort Collins is something of a micro brewery mecca. My favorite is O’dell Brewing Company, who make 5 Barrel, 90 Schilling, a phenominal red ale and the best IPA around.

9B: How many drunk people at shows have offered you legal advice on the John Elway copyright infringement threat?

Elway: Jesus… More than I care to go into. Although I must say it was flattering when I was asked to provide some quotes for someone’s paper at Harvard law school, that was cool!

9B: Earlier this year, Virgil from Suburban Home said he’d release Delusions on vinyl? Is that still happening?

Elway: No. The reasons for which skirt the line between label insider gossip and negative sentiments that might read as alt-country heresy. I will only say that we opted not to go with Virgil for our LPs, though we still think he is a super rad, well-intentioned guy. We’ll be putting out the vinyl on Red Scare Industries sometime in early 2012.

9B: Even though Delusions shares some tracks with …Too Bad [the 2009 record by a previous incarnation of Elway known as 10-4 Eleanor], it plays like a cohesive record. Do you feel like you took a second shot at those songs and “got it right” this time around? How do you think that flow came about? Did you have something clear in mind when you were sequencing Delusions?

Elway: The idea behind re-recording some of the songs off of …Too Bad stemmed from the fact that we were at least partially unsatisfied with the quality of the recordings. We believe that the re-recorded versions of the songs do them justice. As far as sequencing goes, we were just looking to make a record that is easily listenable and engaging throughout, which I certainly hope we accomplished.

9B: What is the State of the Band right now? Are you Guys with Other Jobs focused on keeping those jobs, or has Delusions afforded you some touring/recording capital that you hadn’t had before?

Elway: Well, I am on the clock as I am answering these questions if that gives you any insight into how seriously I take working. We just returned from a 6 week long tour and we’re recording an EP in January. We also hope to have a full length out sometime next year as well. We garnered some pretty serious momentum in 2011 and we’d like to parlay that into another great year for both us and those who like us. We’ll see how bad we are able to fuck it all up!

9B: Most Elway fans outside of Colorado have come to know your music through punk channels such as the Fest, punknews.org, or your tours. Do you have anything specific to say to a readership like ninebullets’, which is coming to you, in general, from an interest in the country side of things?

Elway: What are you hayseeds doing reading this interview? Go listen to Sacramento’s Bastards of Young, Fort Collins’ Arliss Nancy, and always, always, always Cory Branan!

Autopsy IV says: Lauderdale’s album Moving On turned up all over all sorts of Best Of lists last month so I thought now would be the perfect time to post this interview Charles did with Niles Lee a while back. Enjoy.

9B:  In the Nine Bullets review AIV mentioned that Moving On was recorded a couple of years ago.  Is there a story behind what too so long for the album to see the light of day?  And are there new songs and plans to record a follow-up?

NL:  We started recording the album a couple of years ago and finished tracking and mixed the album last summer.  One of the reasons it took so long is that we had to record for free, so we had to find places to work for free. Ben Tanner and I figured that we had worked in about six different locations in the making of “Moving On”.  Also, several of Lauderdale’s members are also involved with other bands, so we would work on it when everyone had time. Last but not least, last year we took a break from playing shows and made a lineup change and in the process of doing that we kinda let the album fall by the wayside.  We do have some new songs worked up and there are several that I had written while we were taking that break.  It is my goal to start recording another album soon.

9B:  I haven’t had a chance to check out your first album, though I want to, and I imagine many of the Nine Bullets readers haven’t either.  Should they buy that one also?  Is there a significant sound difference from the first album to the second?

NL:  As far as the differences between the first and second albums, to me they are very different.   The first album was recorded when we were a three piece band.  So all of the production was me alone, sitting around filling the spaces, with the exception of a lead guitar track on the song “heartbreaker”.  Also, a lot of the songs were written as solo acoustic/vocal songs and then were made into rock songs, which only works some of the time.  Its been many years since I have heard some of the tracks on that album, but we still consistently play certain songs to this day.  The first album has some really strong songs and some that in my opinion were ruined by us trying to make them be something they were never meant to be… rock songs…  (but for the record there are songs that I hate that people say are their favorite songs on that album. Damned if you do, damned if you dont I guess…) That has been my biggest struggle in this band, how to write a rock’n roll song.  With “moving on” I feel it is obvious that I have become more comfortable with writing rock songs and also not forcing a song to be something it isn’t.

9B:  One of the things I’ve noticed about Moving On is the consistency of sound.  The songs sound different but they all seem like the come from a band that has honed its sound.  I can tell y’all aren’t fresh out of college, how long have y’all been working as a band?  Share a little bit about your history, especially if it’s anything like Motley Crue’s.

NL:  As far as a consistancy of sound, it all comes down to each person in the band developing and having their own style and not the band developing and sticking to a style. The best analogy in a pop sense I can make is Coldplay vs. REM.  Coldplay has made a fortune off of a 6 over 4 drum pattern and REM will never be summed up by a drum pattern…

We are from Muscle Shoals, a tiny nothing town in Alabama.  Years ago there were a group of guys that created a very unique “sound” based upon their individual interpretations of their instruments.  We honestly look up to them, and are just trying to learn and or steal from them what we can.

9B:  We want to see you on the road.  There aren’t many tour dates listed are there plans to change that?

NL:  Even though we have released a new album we are still working our way out of the slump created by the time off that we have taken.  I know that we wont be traveling as much as we did in the past, but we are going to try to focus on playing better shows and not every show that comes our way.

9B:  What has the reception to The Grant been thus far?  We love it at Nine Bullets.

NL:  I am sure some people like it and some people will hate it… it is what it is… its an album…

From Moving On:
Lauderdale – Moving On
Lauderdale – Torn At The Seams
Lauderdale – Stars Fell

Lauderdale’s Official Site, Lauderdale on Facebook, Lauderdale on Spotify, Buy Moving On

Every now and then the bass player gets his day.  Usually the singer or the guitarist gets all the fame and all the questions.  So Today Nine Bullets caught up with American Aquarium’s bass player, Bill Corbin.  He talked about their last record, their next record, and their upcoming tour west of the Mississippi.

9B: It’s been a while since your last record, Small Town Hymns came out, at least by y’all’s standards.  Are there a batch of new songs waiting to be recorded or all y’all just concentrating on playing shows?

BC: It has been quite a while since Small Town Hymns came out. This is the first year since I joined the band that we haven’t put out a new record and honestly, it’s been a nice change of pace.  With Dances for the Lonely we had road tested those songs for months prior to the recording sessions which made making the album a fairly easy process for us.  For Small Town Hymns however, we moved down to Oxford for a month with essentially nothing written for the record in hopes of doing all the writing, arrangements, and recording at the same time. We thought this would be a fun challenge and it certainly was. We quickly learned that a month can come and go very quickly and while we are all
very proud of the album we made there, I think we all wonder what the record would’ve been like had we fleshed it out a bit beforehand.

For this new record we decided to go back to how we use to do it: Bj writes a song, we work out an arrangement for it, play it for crowds, and then make adjustments here and there until we are happy with it. It’s a process that we all enjoy. Seeing what works and what doesn’t. I like to think audience members enjoy this as well. You get to see a song kind of grow and evolve. Hell, you can even see it on youtube. If you look up new songs like “redheads and adderall” or “st marys” you can see that they are almost all different in one way or another. So, yes we have been working on new material in addition to playing shows and continuing to tour throughout 2011. We have the bulk of the
album written and will be playing quite a few new ones on our fall tour in November. We will be hard at work over the holidays putting together the rest of the album which we will be recording in January down in Muscle Shoals with Jason Isbell producing it.

9B: The tour schedule for American Aquarium is generally pretty packed but I noticed this fall y’all are heading to some places I don’t remember y’all playing very often.  St. Louis, Denver, Nebraska, & Kansas.  Are these totally new places for the band and are y’all making a concerted effort to open up some new markets?  How hard is it to stretch out your touring areas?

BC: We have actually been to these markets before but it’s been a very long time since we have been there. We’ve played all over but it’s really hard to get that far out, so usually it’s only once a year we can hit those spots. The problem is that in order for us to tour and get that far out we have to be gone for a very long time for it to be profitable for us. We are still a developing band operating on essentially a shoestring budget so we really have to put a lot of thought and effort into getting that far from home. Thankfully our
management does a great job of organizing it in a way that makes financial sense, minimizes risk, and keeps it fun for us. We hate to neglect markets and we certainly will be out that way quite a bit more in 2012 when the new record comes out.

9B: When you were down at Tweed recording Small Town Hymns I swear you told me that the band was waking up in the mornings and jogging.  Did I make this up and if I didn’t do any of y’all run while on tour or have any PE type activities while living in a van?  I keep picturing y’all running down one of those Mississippi country roads as a band and I wonder if there was always a slowest runner.

BC: I love this question! I still try to exercise everyday but staying fit on the road certainly presents its own challenges. I love to weightlift but I rarely have access to a real gym on the road so I end up running a lot more and trying to watch what I eat. The hard part is exercising enough to counteract all the drinking we do on the road. We drink a lot and often so I have to take that into account everyday. If I’m playing a place like Little Rock I know I have to run my ass off during the day because once the show starts there will be a deluge of alcohol that just won’t stop. The rest of the band will work out now and then still, but at the very least there has been a concerted effort by everyone to eat healthier during the day.  I would say collectively we are healthier now than we have ever been although you might not guess it by how much we drink once the show starts.

9B: A year or so ago American Aquarium took their rock show across the pond.  How was that experience?  (Bill if this was while you weren’t playing with the band feel free to ignore this one)

BC: I was with the band when we went to Europe and it was amazing. The folks running and attending the Blue Highways festival treated us so ridiculously well. The crowd was just so attentive and appreciative that I couldn’t believe it.  It was such a trip to be in a foreign country and have people singing your songs. It’s an experience that I’ll never forget. I hope we can make it back there soon.

9B: From the times I’ve seen y’all play and hung out it seems like you’ve probably got one or two road stories.  Please share a recent one, and remember this is a blog it DOESN’T have to be PG.

BC: Code of the road, man. I can’t throw anybody under the bus but rest assured I have stories for days. I’ll tell you a few of my own off the record when I see you in Denver if you can make it. It might require some whiskey to loosen the lips though! Haha.

American Aquarium – Nothing To Lose
American Aquarium – Rattlesnake

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If you could put a voice to that feeling that overcomes you as the night stumbles to a close and the barlights dim ever so slightly, that last little loving nudge towards the door before the slam back on, each blazing bulb a 120 watt punch in the nose, that voice would be Matthew Ryan’s.

For the better part of 15 years, Ryan has been putting out beautiful records, collections of graceful, hypnotic melodies floating high above a battlefield of love and loss and all of the other wreckage we all leave behind us. Sonically pinpointing Ryan’s music – for those who take solace in the ease of that sort of reductive classification – is nearly impossible, as his compositions are at times stripped nearly bare (the twangy late-night diatribe of “Nails” from Regret Over the Wires), and at others a crash course in sonic layers (the beautifully orchestrated ache of “Never Look Back” from From A Late Night High Rise).

I first came to Matthew Ryan’s music via mixtape, well over a decade ago. A friend had carefully placed a couple of songs from Ryan’s debut album, May Day, among a few of my favorites (Dylan, Westerberg, Earle, Waits, Springsteen). The tracks stood out, not because I didn’t recognize them, but because they were so beautifully written, so well-crafted, that I had to listen multiple times consecutively before I was convinced they weren’t somehow pathworked creations derived from other songs. Since that day, I’ve been an avid and unapologetic Matthew Ryan devotee.

When I learned Ryan would be self-releasing his new album, Dear Lover (available now digitally and through Ryan’s website, with a full-scale physical release scheduled for February 16, 2010), I vowed I would sing the album’s praises in every venue afforded to me. As such, this is the first of a two-part Dear Lover celebration. The following interview with Matthew Ryan was conducted over the course of several days via email, with no planned questions, only those which flowed from the answers Ryan provided as the conversation flowed. What resulted was, I believe, as natural a conversation as two people can have given the circumstances. Part Two, which will follow later this week, will be comprised of my review of Dear Lover. Until then, enjoy discovering, rediscovering, or further discovering Matthew Ryan.

You’ve said you view music cinematically, and I’d agree that Dearl Lover is a very cinematic record in terms of the narrative flow, the way one song leads into another. Were there any specific films on your mind when you were making the record?

A Very Long Engagement and Children of Men were on my mind a lot…

Those are fantastic films. Were they on your mind thematically or was the intent more to make a record that sort of reflected Cuaron and Jeunet’s filmmaking? Both films, in my opinion, had a very “barren” quality about them, the sort of beauty you see in trees completely stripped of their leaves in late November.

Yeah, there’s a barrenness. But also how people (and those characters) get even more human when confronted with mortality. Whether it’s the mortality of their dreams, concepts, beliefs, love or lives. There’s a lot of references lyrically to winter on Dear Lover. Almost a nuclear winter. I wanted the record to be spare. I wanted my voice, the melody and the lyrics to convey the stories. I really tried to create a filmic feel and tempo to the record. The music acts like weather, furniture and place. The record isn’t intended to be apocalyptic by any stretch. It’s just supposed to be completely stripped of anything that obstructs the emotionalism.

It’s these kind of details that excite me about music, film and art in general. Dear Lover was intended to be as pure a record as I could offer where I didn’t burden myself with any concern outside the feeling that the songs were simultaneously exposed and maximized. Because there’s diversity in what songs require, the filmic idea allowed me to go exactly where each song needed to go because I could treat each song like a scene. Funny thing is, that if you listen to City Life (track 1) and The End Of A Ghost Story (the last track), they both occur in the same “location.” But so much has happened in between that the air has changed, the mood has changed. The feel is different. And that’s not unlike the mood or feel of your kitchen before and after an argument that finds resolution. Know what I mean?

Yeah, “stripped of anything that obstructs the emotionalism” is a great way to put it – barren in that way, as well. You mention that you wanted your voice, the melody and the lyrics to convey the stories and this is something that, in my opinion, you’ve always done incredibly well throughout the course of your work, using a song’s melody to convey those things that the lyrics don’t. To me, this is a completely different animal that writing a “hook,” and it’s an aspect of songwriting that really gets overlooked. What was the process for you? How did you figure out what would be spoken and unspoken in these narratives?

For Dear Lover I only wanted to record performances. I’m sure you understand how often tracking becomes about “getting it right” or “good enough.” Those modes are dangerous to the purity of a song. I love choruses. But they are not a priority. Songs can act as descriptive mantras and conversations as well. Many of the songs on Dear Lover are just that. To me the best choruses feel natural like where the wrist becomes the hand. I’ve found that I want above all to feel something as a performer and a listener. That may seem obvious. But that’s where I’m coming from. So with the songs on Dear Lover are moments recorded circling a theme. Hopefully the songs are strong enough to stand alone. I believe they are. But so much of writing and singing and performing is simply allowing yourself to operate on instinct. It takes an absolute trust in the moment. But that is how I approached both the writing and the performing of these songs, which was mostly done on mic. And after something was recorded, I would let it breathe for a bit and then listen to try and understand if my truth, in that moment, was told.

That brings me to something I’ve found is really important to me as a listener: that an album stands both as a complete work in and of itself and as a collection of songs that hold up individually. There is a very clear and tangible theme coursing throughout Dear Lover, and you’ve talked a little bit about the songs dealing with some of what results from a confrontation with mortality. How important is it to you that people hear this album in its entirety? Dear Lover is being released digitally first, so there is a distinct possibility that people will hear one, two, or a handful of tracks “out of context,” so to speak. How do you reckon with that?

It’s a lot to ask of strangers to commit to listen to our work like we do. Particularly when you consider the army of intentions and nature of luck. I mean, that’s essentially what we do whenever we release a record. There’s a fair amount of ego involved in the notion of albums alone. But it’s also a pure and simple willingness, need and desire to communicate. I’ve always hoped to create albums that evoked curiosity from listeners. In the speed of our emerging culture, it seems tougher to engage people for the entire 45 minutes of a record. So that’s why I tried to make each song as pure and radiant as possible, hoping each song could stand on their own for whatever the needs or emotional availability of a listener is or was. But like how scenes in a movie glide into each other, the songs on Dear Lover do the same. It starts in one place and the story pulls it to and through all the elements that arc of a story offers. Hopefully it pulls listeners along. It’s not preachy. It’s trying to tell as honestly as it can the ways that we can get lost, and in turn, at least one version of how we can be found again.

I think that’s really beautifully put, and the honesty of the songs really permeates the performances in a very intimate, visceral way. Dear Lover was recorded and mixed almost entirely at home, which you’ve written about a little bit for Blurt. What prompted the decision to make the record at home and, for the most part, by yourself?

Well first and foremost, recording an entire album alone was something I always wanted to do. I’ve tried before, but my technical skills weren’t quite there yet. Follow the Leader (from From A Late Night High Rise), Jane I Still Feel The Same(from MRVSS) and Return To Me (from Regret Over the Wires) were all, for the most part, recorded in my home studio. But with Dear Lover it was time to live and die by my own talents and abilities. Early in 2009 I read a quote by Joe Strummer. He said essentially that as long as you have others to blame, you’ll never learn nothing. That really stuck with me.

I love the people I’ve played music with, but they could never read my mind. So every record has had beautiful moments, and moments where I felt the sonic story underachieved. So with Dear Lover it was time to dismantle any excuses for failure. I started my own label with my publicist, Monica Hopman. And I made Dear Lover alone at home from beginning to end, I don’t want to have anyone to blame for where I have fallen short. I want to grow my career as much as I can, offer the purest, most beautiful music I’m capable of. And I want to succeed, I see no nobility in being virtually unknown. Because being virtually unknown means you haven’t earned any equity in what you’re doing with you life. I want security, but I also want my dignity. My goal is to prove that that still means something in all the blizzards of our culture.

I still had friends play on the record, but only after I felt I had defined exactly what the song was. And I have to say, in all honesty, Hans Dekline at Sound Bites Dog mastered the absolute hell out of Dear Lover. He made it sound like a million bucks.

I think there’s a real fallacy in the thinking of some that being on an indie label means you get to retain every ounce of your dignity and control. I think both you and I could probably dispel that notion pretty quickly for someone.

Dear Lover sounds fantastic. So now you’ve got this beautiful record that people should hear and, for better or worse, it’s up to you to bring them around to it. In the dizzying blur of the everythingrightnow world we live in, that likely means Facebook, Twitter, blogs, and the like. I’m curious, has there been a point yet where you’ve had to go, “okay, enough self-promotion today.” I know there are days where I have grown really tired of being both the carnival barker and the trapeze artist, y’know?

As a sort of related question – since this interview will be posted rather than printed – how do you feel about the way that arm of promotion has changed in the last decade or so? Do you read many music blogs?

I try not to self-promote. I’m actually anti-marketing in a way. My goal is to engage people and offer context to my music because my hope is that my music inspires them to become advocates. I believe that regardless of what business believes, real success and a real career is built upon an intimacy between what you create and how people welcome what you create into their lives. The best “promotion” is when someone sits down in a car or house somewhere and someone says, “listen to this, you have to hear this song.”  It’s a slow-process, but it’s proving to be the right process for me. My career continues to grow. It’s painfully slow sometimes, but other modes just don’t work for me.

I find myself more interested in what real people are saying in threads and chats about music. I do read some blogs, but honestly, it’s often hard for me because I have a dog in the fight. Frankly, I find some blogs and music sites to be a form of fascism. That being said, I am inspired by anyone anywhere that writes passionately and intelligently about music. I love when I read something so infectious about a band that it builds real curiosity from me. I recently found Glasvegas through a blog. It just felt honest to me. And it turns out, I love their record. That’s when it’s a success. I just wish their was a way to divide the great and inspired writing from the hipster dregs and the spam. We really need three internets: One for smart, emotional critical thinkers; one for proud consumers; and another for hipsters who will cringe and hopefully grin at pictures of themselves and their clever music three years from now.

I think you were one of the first musicians who I remember openly saying, “share my music however you see fit.” It was really refreshing at the time, and continues to be so. I absolutely agree that the best “promotion” is one person to another, “you gotta hear this!” That’s how I found May Day many, many years ago. Somebody put “Irrelevant” and “Railroaded” on a mix tape for me. Are there songs on Dear Lover you feel are especially representative of what you wanted to accomplish? Something you would put on a mixtape for someone?

It’s hard to point one song out on Dear Lover. I worked very hard to make this a collection with real thematic continuity and development. I know listeners will have their favorites, and that’s been the beauty of my career so far. Because different people gravitate to my work for different reason. I’m always amazed that nearly every song I’ve ever written is someone’s favorite for very legitimate reasons.

But if I had to say which songs I would point people to, it would go like this:

We Are Snowmen – Because it’s true poetry and cinema married to a melody. It’s a short story that ends with a beautiful, urgent message in conclusion. It’s also my favorite vocal performance to date. I feel like a real singer on Snowmen.

Your Museum – Similar to Snowmen in that it deals in absolute beauty. It’s one of those songs that’s as beautiful as it is strange. But because of the melody, lyric and air it creates, it doesn’t buckle under being strange for strange’s sake. It sounds like it should, because if you’ve ever been where this song is coming from, you know what a relief it represents. Some of my best writing when it comes to pure hope.

Spark – Because it’s something that maturity has allowed me to embrace without fear. It’s the bravest song on the record aesthetically speaking because the track is a hard Trance track. But thematically for the arc of the record it works perfectly. I know some purist might snub it, but I don’t care. It’s a great song when stripped down. But the song was also sturdy enough to play the role of Apocalypse Now for lovers in the development of Dear Lover’s story. And that amazes me.

The World Is – Because, well, this song is the essence of my message over the years. Some view me as a pessimist or cynic or depressive or too serious. Well, that’s just not true. I’m an eternal optimist with seriously romantic notions of what men and women are capable of. We live in very serious times, and I feel that it’s my job to try provoke heroism and perseverance in myself and those that care to listen. It may upset some to know that rarely, very rarely are my songs about just me and my experience. I know that can be contrary to the mythology that some artists like to build around themselves. But my songs are looking more outward than some might suspect. It’s impossible to separate individuals from the times they live in. By finding beauty and despair in the modern struggle I believe art helps to define a way out or at least to offer some peace with the things that daunt hope and dignity.

Matthew Ryan – American Dirt
Matthew Ryan – Come Home
Matthew Ryan – We Are Snowmen